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that can be a bit risky, most hosts don't
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What are your parents like?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/1/2018 5:42 AM
I would wait until you can ask it yourself
5:43 AM
I for one know my very-Christian mother would not be a fan of me having a ride-along companion
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I haven’t told my mother, who I’m very close to. It’s been a heavy secret to carry so finding this place was awesome.
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:44 AM
My dad would probably think I'm an idiot (I am) and my mom would be concerned for my mental health
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/1/2018 5:44 AM
Unfortunately, this is from the category of things that parents can't always be the most helpful with respect to (edited)
5:44 AM
Mostly because it's such an uncommon thing that they've likely never heard of it
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I recommend testing them first by introducing them to tulpas
5:44 AM
as a kind of thing that you have seen on the internet
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the concept of tulpas isn't very well-known in the world and can sometimes be misunderstood or draw misconceptions
5:45 AM
maybe they'll eventually be mainstream, but that's not upon us yet
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:45 AM
Yeah. I think I'll see if they will offer counseling
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Good counselling is good.
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Are they interested in philosophy?
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:46 AM
no
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Darn.
5:46 AM
I was hoping you could maybe ease them into it with the concept of the Ancient Greek daemon.
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Wassat
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Daemon is the Latin word for the Ancient Greek daimon (δαίμων: "god", "godlike", "power", "fate"), which originally referred to a lesser deity or guiding spirit; the daemons of ancient Greek religion and mythology and of later Hellenistic religion and philosophy. The wo...
5:48 AM
It's a bit occult, but it's similar to what a tulpa is.
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guiltily researches daemons instead of studying
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Thanks
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Oops.
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:49 AM
Thank you everyone for helping me. Im going to go to bed now. Goodnight!
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I suppose if you want to go down that vein, look up His Dark Materials and the daemons of that series.
5:49 AM
Cya
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Night
5:50 AM
Maybe I will
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A dæmon /ˈdiːmən/ is the physical manifestation of a human soul in Lyra's world. Humans in other worlds have dæmons; however they are invisible to those who have not learned the technique to see...
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If you can puppet a fully developed tulpa... can a fully developed tulpa puppet you?
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they can possess you, though I guess that's not entirely the same thing
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 7:01 AM
Possession is about controlling our body. Puppeting is about controlling mental image of a tulpa. Imo it's indistinguishable from fantasizing about tulpa.
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And I guess your tulpa can fantasise about their mental image of you...
7:23 AM
Wait no. Messed up my terminology. I’m talking about parroting.
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 7:25 AM
Isn't it the same thing?
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Parroting/puppeting is just fantasizing about your tulpa. If a tulpa is indistinguishable from their mental image and it feels like parroting is controlling her mind... Well, I think tulpa in this stage of development is indistinguishable from an imaginary friend.
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I guess. It was a silly question anyway. I was thinking about how new hosts parrot mindvoices and wondering whether a tulpa could ever do the same for their hosts. Or maybe think something themselves and become convinced it was the host.
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 7:35 AM
Tulpa could possibly fantasize about host I guess. I personally find fantasizing about myself more interesting though. :p
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:44 PM
Would Writing Down details about a Wonderland to further detail its world help a tulpa grow and stay in focus?
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Trying to think of ways to combat my ADHD and how easily distracted I am lol
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 4:53 PM
I don't know but I I think details about a wonderland (which is fictional, imaginary world or set of worlds in your head, nothing more, nothing less) are not at all connected to tulpa's development.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:54 PM
I suppose development wasnt the word I was looking for
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From what I've gathered, the only way to make a tulpa grow is to spend time with it (and a wonderland can help with that), and the only way to consistently stay focused on that goal is mindfulness.
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 4:54 PM
Unless you want your tulpa to pretend having delusional life in the wonderland. Which in my humble opinion sucks and makes a tulpa nothing more than an imaginary friend.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:55 PM
yeah I suppose
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I've heard from others, and I am currently doing this, that you can create a tulpa without ever using a wonderland.
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Deleted User 7/1/2018 4:56 PM
If you want your tulpa to show independent agency, you should spend time with her. Fantasizing in a wonderland is an ok form of doing that, of course but wonderland won't give you a tulpa.
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Meditation, mindfulness training, or at the very least, some device or method of reminding yourself is going to be way more helpful than detailing your wonderland if you goal is to spend more time with the tulpa and therefore grow it.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:56 PM
its mainly cause IRl theres very little to actually do, and at work it takes all of my attention to make sure I dont screw up and fall behind.
4:56 PM
yeah.
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That being said, if you enjoy spending time actively in the wonderland with the tulpa, that's fine.
4:57 PM
It's an activity you can do.
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But the growth comes from you and your tulpa interacting, not necessarily from the wonderland (I think)
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:57 PM
yeah that was the idea. Wasnt gonna be there like. all the time. But Building a world we can explore when bored was the idea.
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I'm still relatively new, but I've read quite a bit. Just trying to be helpful 😄
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:58 PM
I keep forgetting to do the meditations. Im usually too worn out and hot from work to really think about it.
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And my imagination is a little lackluster, so it's hard for me to make one in the first place.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 4:59 PM
yeah same.
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What I do is wear a rubber band wherever I go, and whenever I notice it, it's supposed to remind me that my tulpa is there and I should be interacting with her. Works really well, actually.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:00 PM
I feel it would be SO much better and easier once I get out of this stressful job and life position.
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I could try that
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a rubberband might not work well for me though Unless I customise it a bit.
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One of the main principles of mindfulness, though, is that action usually comes from intention. If you wholeheartedly want to remember your tulpa and want to remember to interact with it, you are probably more likely to "randomly" remember it. (edited)
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:01 PM
I remember him randomly but its not often. I have a bad memory. Like. Last night I was frustratingly bothered at work cause I kept forgetting to do one thing every 5 minutes.
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Gently steer your mind with good intentions, and you will generally start to remember important things more.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:01 PM
yeah.
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An important thing to remember is not to beat yourself up. Every time you do remember him, that's a success! Take a minute to tell him something relevant, express your struggles with memory, etc.
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Revel in your small successes, and you train your brain to remember those things again.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:03 PM
alright
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whats annoying is if I get a wristband my co-workers are definitely gonna ask about it XD
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No one's really asked me, but I would say "because I like to be able to fiddle with something." (edited)
5:09 PM
And that's actually the truth. It just serves a dual purpose.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:09 PM
oh someone showed me someone who custom prints wristbands
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thats much easier to talk about than a feather wristband XD
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Something subtle but meaningful would be nice!
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I've thought about going shopping for a proper bracelet once communication is easy. Of course, by that point, I won't necessarily need the reminder, but I think it'll be a nice symbolic something.
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Us deciding on one together, I mean. Rubber band for now though.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:12 PM
if its just something like a Rubberband I will just quickly forget it even exists as a reminder.
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Im hoping to get one custom made that will be a lot harder for me to just forget about.
5:14 PM
like I have a Purity ring that I know what it means, But Most of the time I forget it even exists on my finger. XD
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:25 PM
Would talking about tulpas to a counseler give them reason to put you in a mental hospital? Or to tell parents ect.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 5:29 PM
Would it really make much difference if they knew?
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Once you tell them you cant go back and, at least for me, its easier that i keep it to myself
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:33 PM
Good idea
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Counselors must obey confidentiality unless you threaten to harm others or yourself.
5:37 PM
You can tell them literally anything except for those 2 things, and they aren't allowed to tell anybody, and that includes a mental hospital or your parents.
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That being said, I would wait until I was extremely close to a counselor to tell them I was interested in tulpas or anything like tulpas.
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As of right now, I don't plan on telling a single person outside of this server, ever.
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:38 PM
I am close to one
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If they are a genuinely kind person, they will likely obey confidentiality. If they are open minded, they will attempt to understand tulpas if it appears they are important and relevant to you.
5:39 PM
So you be the judge; it's up to you if it's safe or even necessary to tell them.
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:41 PM
Yeah. I think ill just take the safe option. Im just horrible at keeping secrets
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It doesn't necessarily have to be a secret. If you feel an urge to tell someone, it's obviously weighing on you, and it will be worthwhile to consider if your counselor is trustworthy.
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 5:42 PM
Thanks :)
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bduddy #Diana# 7/1/2018 7:44 PM
@DeVout ΘΔ you'd be surprised how little people notice stuff like a wristband.
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DeVout ΘΔ 7/1/2018 8:45 PM
What would you recommend? Unless you mean my co workers
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AmeLumineux 7/1/2018 9:55 PM
I believe they’re talking about your co workers but you could use something like phone reminders to help you as well, maybe try both
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2dimensionalrodent 7/1/2018 11:20 PM
My tulpa talked and wont talk again what should i do?
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how long have you had your tulpa?
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